In the third of our Problematic Toxic Masculinity Tropes series, Jenn and I are joined by Paul Bradley and Kathleen Barbara to discuss that man’s man of intentional intrigue and what Mr. Bond, James Bond has contributed to the butchy stew of toxic masculinity. 

Our guests:

Kathleen Barbara has a Bachelor of Arts in English and Theatre from Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas. She obtained her Master of Arts in English Language and Literature from Wichita State University in 2006. She loves writing about and dissecting films, but she has a day job teaching high school theatre.


Paul Bradley is the author of the Power of Dour blog, where he writes about pessimistic philosophy, politics and culture. He’s also one of those infamous tech guys - a 25-year software industry veteran and startup executive who does weird and interesting things with learning science and artificial intelligence. He is also Jenn Zuko’s administrative assistant. - Paul also created the music for this series.


Jenn Zuko is adjunct faculty at DU, MSU, and Regis University. She teaches courses in writing, literature, visual arts, performing arts, movement, and of course stage combat. She is the author of Stage Combat: Fisticuffs, Stunts, and Swordplay for Theatre and Film, out from Allworth Press back in 2006. She can be seen performing on stage and in classrooms in the Boulder/Denver area, and online at Daily Cross-Swords and Writers’ HQ, as well as archived on the defunct sites Nerds in Babeland, Your Boulder, and Sherlock’s Home.

The Outrider Podcast is orchestrated by me, Jason Quinn Malott, and audio production magic is performed by Heather Anne Eden. You can find the show online at and if you would, please, hop on iTunes and give us a rating. We’ll be back later in 2020 with more miniseries, live shows, and one-on-one conversations with writers, editors, and publishers. Thanks for listening. 

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